Friday, April 27, 2007

Jim and Casper Go To Church


I bought this little book the other day, and I'm really excited about reading it. It's called (as the title above suggests) "Jim and Casper Go To Church". It's about a believer and an atheist who decide to visit churches around North America and write about their experiences and perspectives on what they witnessed. I've read the first three chapters, and it's been very intriguing reading, especially considering that two of the three are really big names in churches these days: Saddleback Church and Mosaic.

I would like to talk about a certain aspect of each chapter, but before I start down that road, let me give you a few excerpts from the introduction that I thought were interesting:

- "In spite of my desire for people to encounter Jesus, I spent most of my time functioning as a moral policeman."

- "I was so busy chasing the elusive Three B's of pastoral success (buildings, budgets, and butts in the seats) that I hardly had time to focus on anything else. In fact, I outright ignored the people that Jesus himself primarily came to connect with - the people Jesus misses the most."

- "Too often, conversations we have about our beliefs are too much like debates, and we spend our time looking for chinks in the conversational armor, spaces where we can insert an argument or launch a rejoinder."

- "Generally speaking, ordinary Christians don't like arguing their friends into becoming Christians. It just doesn't feel right. To be sure, we buy the books and really do want someone doing this kind of work. But the idea that we should demand a verdict from non-Christians seems like an approach a lawyer would take - and you know how people feel like lawyers. Ordinary Christians like me know that when you start defending the faith, you also start losing your friends."

5 comments:

Rochelle said...

I read another book by Jim Henderson "a.k.a. Lost: Discovering Ways to Connect with the People Jesus Misses Most" which was good
The points from the introduction are very true.
Another book to add to my long list :)

Unknown said...

We are reading this book as a staff. Its pretty good stuff....

Matt Casper said...

Hello!

I am the author (Matt Casper).

First, thank you! I am thrilled that people are enjoying this labor of love of mine and Jim's.

Second, double thank you for having your staff read it! We think it should give church staffs especially a "view outside the box," as it were.

We'd love for you to post about it and let Jim and I respond. We've even created a forum for such things here: www.churchrater.com.

Thanks again,
Matt Casper

Adam said...

Hey Matt,

Thanks for posting here!

I have actually already finished the book, I thought it was very good and I appreciate both your and Jim's insight into the different churches that you visited as well as your "unadulterated" (if that word applies here) thoughts of what I like to call "churchianity" and how far it has taken us away from really following Jesus.

As I said in the post, I will be looking at an aspect of each chapter, but I want to let you know that I will continue to encourage everyone who reads each post to buy the book, because there is such a huge wealth of aspects that church staff and church members can get out of each chapter.

Again, thanks!

Adam said...

Oh, and by the way, Matt -

San Diego? I'm jealous!

I went to college in Fullerton, but went down there quite a bit. I love the Point Loma area, personally.